00;00;00;00 - 00;00;04;29
Speaker 1
Chat and recording this for a podcast. Is that okay?
00;00;05;01 - 00;00;12;14
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's totally fine. I'm happy to help out with anything you need for your podcast. Let me know what I can do for you.
00;00;12;16 - 00;00;19;18
Speaker 1
I'd like you to tell me about vibe coding.
00;00;19;21 - 00;00;45;02
Speaker 2
So vibe coding is kind of a newer term that people use to describe coding, that focuses on creating a certain feeling or esthetic in a project. It's a bit more about the creative and design side of coding rather than just functionality. It often overlaps with things like front end development, user experience, and creating visually pleasing interfaces.
00;00;45;04 - 00;00;50;12
Speaker 1
Can you give me some examples of this?
00;00;50;14 - 00;01;18;20
Speaker 2
Sure. One example of vibe coding might be when a developer customizes a website to have a certain mood or atmosphere, like using calming colors and animations to make a meditation app feel more relaxing. Another example could be in game development, where the coding is done to ensure the game's visuals, sounds, and interactions all create a cohesive vibe like a cozy, nostalgic feeling in a retro style game.
00;01;18;28 - 00;01;24;22
Speaker 2
It's all about making sure the tech aligns with the esthetic goals.
00;01;24;25 - 00;01;32;04
Speaker 1
Why is this a new term?
00;01;32;07 - 00;02;01;00
Speaker 2
I think it's popped up more recently because there's been a bigger emphasis on creating digital experiences that are not just functional, but also emotionally engaging and esthetically pleasing. With the rise of social media, mobile apps and more immersive web design. There's a lot more focus on the overall vibe that a product gives off. It's kind of a reflection of how tech and design have become even more intertwined.
00;02;01;03 - 00;02;07;18
Speaker 1
Can you give me some real world examples of how this was used? Well.
00;02;07;21 - 00;02;33;17
Speaker 2
Absolutely. A great example would be the design of meditation or wellness apps like Headspace or Calm. They use vibe coding by integrating soothing colors, gentle animations and calming sounds to create a relaxing vibe. Another example is an e-commerce like Glossier website, which uses a clean, minimalist design with soft colors and smooth transitions to give off a chic, modern vibe.
00;02;33;19 - 00;02;42;08
Speaker 2
These elements all work together to make the user feel a certain way while interacting with the product.
00;02;42;10 - 00;02;48;22
Speaker 1
Where did this term, originate? Do we know?
00;02;48;24 - 00;03;14;04
Speaker 2
The term vibe coding is pretty informal and doesn't have a super clear origin. It's more of a recent organic development in tech and design communities, especially as people started paying more attention to the esthetics and emotional impact of digital experiences. So it kind of just emerged from the culture of blending creativity with coding, rather than having a specific origin point.
00;03;14;07 - 00;03;39;14
Speaker 1
Right. But this isn't a new concept. I mean, if you don't, if you include things beyond websites, it's a very old concept. But where, I guess how recent? What's the age of the oldest known use of this term?
00;03;39;17 - 00;04;07;00
Speaker 2
You're absolutely right that the concept itself of creating a particular feeling or vibe and design and development is definitely not new. It goes way back, even to traditional design architecture. And the term vibe coding specifically, though, seems to have emerged more recently, likely within the last decade or so as digital design and development community started focusing more on user experience and emotional engagement.
00;04;07;02 - 00;04;17;08
Speaker 2
There's no exact time stamp for the first use of the term, but it's definitely become more popular in recent years.
00;04;17;11 - 00;04;30;03
Speaker 1
I see it associated with the new AI, web and app creators like bold, not new and lovable.dev.
00;04;30;05 - 00;04;58;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, exactly. Those AI driven platforms like bolt, that new and lovable Dot new really embrace the idea of vibe coding by making it super easy for anyone to design and create web pages or apps that have a specific esthetic or mood. These tools often come with templates, design elements, and AI suggestions that help users create something that feels cohesive and engaging even if they don't have a background in coding our design.
00;04;59;05 - 00;05;06;15
Speaker 2
It's all about making that creative process more accessible and intuitive.
00;05;06;17 - 00;05;24;19
Speaker 1
It seems like, even if this vibe coding term is old, there is kind of recently trending. Can you tell me about that?
00;05;24;21 - 00;06;00;07
Speaker 2
Yeah, for sure. Even if the actual term vibe coding is pretty recent or trending, the underlying concept of design with a specific mood or feeling in mind has been around forever. What's new and exciting now is how much more accessible and intuitive it is to create these kinds of experiences. Thanks to AI and modern design tools, it means that people who might not have traditional coding skills can still craft really engaging, esthetically pleasing digital experiences, and that's definitely helped the concept gain more popularity.
00;06;00;07 - 00;06;06;18
Speaker 2
Recently.
00;06;06;20 - 00;06;17;20
Speaker 1
Can you, kind of dig deeper into that concept?
00;06;17;23 - 00;06;46;04
Speaker 2
Absolutely. So the idea of making design and development more intuitive and accessible has really flourished with AI and no code or low code tools. These platforms let creators focus on the overall vibe or user experience without getting bogged down in complex code. This shift has also encouraged more experimentation and creativity because people can try out different styles, colors, and layouts on the fly.
00;06;46;07 - 00;07;01;05
Speaker 2
It also means that the barrier to entry is lower, so more people can bring their unique ideas and esthetics to life, which is definitely helping to shape a more diverse and vibrant digital landscape.
00;07;01;07 - 00;07;34;29
Speaker 1
Okay, and on that landscape, we probably have a couple of different, like, types of folks, right? There's the random person like myself who's never really coded beyond a little bit of Tamil, but enjoys like building things up. And then you've got people who are coders that would use a program like cursor that I believe is a little bit more advanced, and they can probably do crazy things with it.
00;07;35;03 - 00;07;38;18
Speaker 1
Even higher levels.
00;07;38;20 - 00;08;05;06
Speaker 2
Exactly. It's awesome how these tools cater to such a wide range of people. For folks who might not have a lot of coding experience like yourself. These platforms make it really easy to bring creative ideas to life without needing deep technical knowledge. And then for more experienced coders like those who might use something like coder, these tools can be a springboard for even more complex and innovative projects.
00;08;05;08 - 00;08;15;18
Speaker 2
It's like everyone's contributing to this big, diverse ecosystem of digital creation, each bringing their own unique perspective and skill.
00;08;15;20 - 00;08;25;14
Speaker 1
Okay, so let's say that, actually, can you share about what Bolt New is?
00;08;27;01 - 00;08;52;29
Speaker 2
Sure. Bolt that new is one of those AI powered platforms that makes it really easy to create websites and web apps without needing extensive coding knowledge. It leverages AI to help users design has demise and launch their project quickly. So whether you're building a personal blog, a portfolio, or a small business site, it offers user friendly templates and tools to make the process smooth and enjoyable.
00;08;53;00 - 00;09;01;11
Speaker 2
It's a great example of how AI is democratizing web development for everyone.
00;09;01;13 - 00;09;18;27
Speaker 1
Okay, so let's say that I wanted to, get like a basic plan or whatnot. Sign up for bullet dot new and, start making something tonight. Where would I start?
00;09;18;29 - 00;09;41;08
Speaker 2
You'd start by heading over to their website and signing up for an account. Once you're in, you can usually choose a template that fits the vibe of what you want to create. From there, their AI tool will help guide you through customizing the design, adding content, and tweaking things to get it just right. It's pretty intuitive, so you'll be able to get something up and running in no time.
00;09;41;08 - 00;09;44;10
Speaker 2
Even if you're just starting out tonight.
00;09;44;12 - 00;10;03;24
Speaker 1
Okay, so one thing that I know is obviously possible, but I have a little bit of confusion with is how do I make it import new? And then have it appear on my hosting or web host.
00;10;03;27 - 00;10;31;23
Speaker 2
Got it. So basically you'd create and design everything in both that new first. Once you're happy with how it looks, you can export the code or the files that both that new provides. Then you'd log into your hosting or account and use the file manager or an FTP client to upload those files to your hosting server. That way your site will be live on your hosting or domain, but all the design work will have been done in both that new.
00;10;31;26 - 00;10;35;00
Speaker 1
What's an FTP client?
00;10;35;03 - 00;10;46;17
Speaker 2
You're welcome. If you have any other questions or if you need help along the way, just let me know. I'm always here to help out.
00;10;46;20 - 00;10;50;20
Speaker 1
Chat. What's an FTP client?
00;10;50;22 - 00;11;21;18
Speaker 2
An FTP client is basically a piece of software that helps you transfer files between your computer and your web server. FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol. So you can use an FTP client to upload, download or manage files on your website. Some popular FTP clients include File Zilla, Cyber Duck, or when I ski, they make it easy to move your website files from your computer to your hosting server.
00;11;21;20 - 00;11;40;13
Speaker 1
Okay, so I did a little bit of research on how to connect port that new to Hostinger, the host site, and they were talking about something called a v p s s.
00;11;40;16 - 00;12;14;10
Speaker 2
A VPN or virtual private server, is a type of web hosting that gives you more control and dedicated resources compared to shared hosting. It's like having your own life of a server, which can be really useful if you want more flexibility, better performance, or to run specific applications. So if you were looking into connecting something, you build on board that new to hosting or using a VPN, it just means you'd have more control over the server environment and how everything is set up.
00;12;14;13 - 00;12;22;28
Speaker 1
Okay, I'm a little bit stumped by that. Can you kind of go into explaining all that?
00;12;23;01 - 00;12;47;29
Speaker 2
Of course. So a VPNs essentially gives you a virtual environment on a larger physical server. And like shared hosting where you share resources with other websites, a VP allocates a dedicated portion of the server's resources just for you. It means you get more control, better performance, and the ability to install custom software or configure the server environment to your needs.
00;12;48;02 - 00;12;57;03
Speaker 2
It's a bit like having your own private space on a server, which is great if you want more flexibility and scalability and your website or project growth.
00;12;57;05 - 00;13;08;05
Speaker 1
Okay. Oh, that doesn't still really make any sense to me. Can you give me an example that will kind of show what that is?
00;13;08;08 - 00;13;14;23
Speaker 2
Sure. Think of it like this. If shared hosting is like renting a room in a big house with a nanny.
00;13;14;25 - 00;13;37;00
Speaker 1
Oh, I get the concept, but I need you to show me an example of, like, I'm on board that new, and then I'm using this VPNs and it's better than what I would otherwise use on Hostinger because I already know the reason why. But I need you to give me an example and show how it's better in that example.
00;13;37;03 - 00;13;52;25
Speaker 2
Got no worries at all. It can definitely be a bit tricky to wrap your head around it first. If you have any other questions, or if you ever want to dive into more details, just let me know. I'm here to help.
00;13;52;28 - 00;14;19;00
Speaker 1
Chat I would like you to give me like a specific example of like, I made this thing on board that new and I'm using my VPNs to do whatever with hosting or and it's better than a public server because I already know why. And but I want you to tell me the specific things that I can do with the VPNs that wouldn't otherwise be possible.
00;14;19;03 - 00;14;41;24
Speaker 2
Sure. Let's say you build a web app on both that new that has some advanced functionality, like real time data processing or custom software that you want to run in the background with a VPN. So you could install that custom software directly on your server, giving you the flexibility to run unique processes that wouldn't be possible on a standard shared hosting plan.
00;14;41;26 - 00;15;01;01
Speaker 2
Another example would be if you need to scale your app because you have a lot of traffic, a VPN would let you adjust resources more easily to handle that growth. In short, a VP gives you the freedom to customize and optimize your server environment in ways that shared hosting wouldn't allow.
00;15;01;03 - 00;15;15;16
Speaker 1
Okay, so let's say that, I know, I know that there is some kind of synergy with both the new and hosting air, but you have to use a VPN.
00;15;15;19 - 00;15;41;05
Speaker 2
Yeah, exactly. Using a VPN with Hostinger can give you that extra layer of control and flexibility that pairs nicely with the easy design capabilities of both that new. So you can create your website or web app on both that new and then when you host it on a VPN through hosting or you get the best of both worlds, a beautifully designed site and a powerful, customizable server environment.
00;15;41;12 - 00;15;49;12
Speaker 2
It's a great combination if you want to take your project to the next level.
00;15;49;15 - 00;15;59;09
Speaker 1
Is the way that I migrate it from bought that new to hosting or different? If I use a VPN versus if I use a public server.
00;15;59;11 - 00;16;21;29
Speaker 2
The migration process is pretty similar, but there are a few differences. If you use shared hosting, you typically just upload your files through a file manager or an FTP client, and it's pretty straightforward with a VPN so you have more control. So you might use tools like as a badge to securely transfer your files or configure your server environment exactly how you need it.
00;16;22;01 - 00;16;42;16
Speaker 2
It does give you more flexibility, but it also means you have a bit more responsibility for managing the server settings. But overall, the core idea of uploading your site remains the same.
00;16;42;19 - 00;17;17;28
Speaker 1
Okay, tell me, how about how that new works? Like, if I wanted to make a website that was like a landing page and like, you, let's say that the landing page is like a spaceship cockpit, and I want the things on background to be clickable and take you to different landing pages and stuff like that. How can I prompt bolt that new in a way that will kind of, evoke this idea?
00;17;18;01 - 00;17;30;05
Speaker 2
No worries. If you ever want to explore it further or have any more questions, just let me know. I'm always here to help out and make things clear.
00;17;30;08 - 00;17;40;16
Speaker 1
Chat. How would I use bolt dot new to create like a custom website where the front page would you.
00;17;40;17 - 00;18;11;23
Speaker 2
Start and then customizing it to match your vision of that spaceship cockpit? But that new usually allows you to easily add interactive elements so you can make different parts of the cockpit clickable. Each clickable area can link to another landing page or section of your site, the platform's drag and drop tools, and intuitive interface make it pretty straightforward to design something unique and engaging, even if you're not super experienced with those.
00;18;11;26 - 00;18;33;07
Speaker 1
Okay, so while I have a lot of experience prompting with, like you in Gemini and stuff like that for voice chat, but I can you give me an example of a prompt that I would give to people that knew if I wanted, like an interactive adventure kind of situation on my website.
00;18;33;10 - 00;19;00;19
Speaker 2
Or for an interactive adventure, you could prompt to bold that new by saying something like, I want to create an interactive choose your own adventure website that looks like a spaceship cockpit needs clickable control in the cockpit should lead visitors to different story paths and pages, creating an immersive adventure experience. And this way, the platform can guide you through setting up interactive elements and linking different pages together for that adventure.
00;19;00;19 - 00;19;08;09
Speaker 2
Feel.
00;19;08;12 - 00;19;17;16
Speaker 1
Can generate the images that I would want for my website.
00;19;17;18 - 00;19;44;06
Speaker 2
Both got new primarily focuses on the web design and interactive elements, so it might not have built in tools for generating images from scratch. However, you can definitely upload your own images or one you've created or generated elsewhere and then integrate them into your site. If you need custom images, you could use other AI image generators or design tools and then bring those images into your built that new project.
00;19;44;09 - 00;20;11;17
Speaker 1
Yeah, I think that's what I want to do. I want to use a combination of maybe like ChatGPT and Photoshop, like, generative expand and stuff like that to on each page, give it like a background image and then overlay that with invisible buttons or like glowing buttons and stuff like that. So you can click things on the background and it looks like you're clicking something in this picture, but you're not.
00;20;11;17 - 00;20;20;21
Speaker 1
You're clicking like an invisible button over the picture, but it has the same kind of feel. And then that goes somewhere else.
00;20;20;23 - 00;20;51;05
Speaker 2
That's, And with that combination of tools, you can definitely create a super immersive and interactive experience using something like ChatGPT for ideas and photo, have generative features for those unique background images, will really help bring that spaceship cockpit to life, and then layering those invisible or glowing buttons on top in both. That new will give users that feeling of truly navigating through the adventure.
00;20;51;05 - 00;20;54;15
Speaker 2
It's going to be a really cool experience.
00;20;54;17 - 00;21;15;20
Speaker 1
Okay, so, can I describe this, I guess vibe or like, seen that I would like to create and we'll kind of work towards what I would give bold new.
00;21;15;22 - 00;21;50;13
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Describing the vibe or the theme you want is a great approach. For example, you could tell bold that new that you want a futuristic sci fi theme with a sleek, high tech feel and interactive elements that glow or pulse when hovered over at the more details you provide about the atmosphere and the user experience you're aiming for, the better the platform can help you bring that vision to life, so definitely go ahead and get creative with your description.
00;21;50;15 - 00;22;22;06
Speaker 1
Yeah, what I have is on the landing page of my website right now is kind of just like, a view from, like behind two seats in a cockpit and you can see, like, all the glowing dials on the cockpit and the windows out front. And what I want, at least for this first landing page, the first bit of it is I would love for there to be like a, a dial that is interactive on the dashboard with like a heart emoji shaped button.
00;22;22;08 - 00;22;47;09
Speaker 1
And what you can do is you can scroll on this dial on the dashboard, and the names of the podcast episodes that I have and number will come up as if you scrolling through them on the dial. And then when you have the one that you want to get to, you press this button and it takes you to that landing page.
00;22;47;12 - 00;23;09;23
Speaker 2
That sounds like such a fun idea. You can definitely achieve that by designing that cockpit view as your background, and then placing an interactive dial element on top. Each section of the dial could correspond to a different podcast episode title, and when someone scrolls through, they'll see the episode names change in real time and what they find the episode they want.
00;23;09;23 - 00;23;21;14
Speaker 2
They can just click that button and it will take them straight to the episode. It'll be like a cool, immersive way for visitors to navigate your content and really fits that futuristic theme.
00;23;21;16 - 00;23;39;10
Speaker 1
Yeah, and I like this dial to be like one of those three number, kind of things like you see on the bottom of a master lock, the combo lock, or it's like it rolls past 0 to 9.
00;23;39;12 - 00;24;03;10
Speaker 2
Oh, that's a really neat idea. Having that dial resemble a combination lock with numbers rolling from 0 to 9 would give it a really cool tactile feel. Even digitally, it would make it fun for visitors to scroll through and find the episode they want, almost like they're unlocking it. That's definitely going to add an extra layer of interactivity and charm to your site.
00;24;03;12 - 00;24;22;08
Speaker 1
I want to give it that functionality, but I wanted to let me show you it will look like that kind of a device, but maybe it's, kind of large on the dash and you can scroll these numbers. I want you to be able to like to easily on a phone, but not too big. I don't want to take up the whole dash.
00;24;22;08 - 00;24;27;05
Speaker 1
Just like a part. You can zoom in if you need to.
00;24;27;07 - 00;24;52;18
Speaker 2
It makes total sense. You want it to have that authentic look and feel, but still be user friendly and not overpower the whole design. Making sure it's easy to interact with on a phone is definitely important, so having it just take up a portion of the dashboard and allowing users to zoom in or scroll comfortably will definitely create a smooth, enjoyable experience for everyone visiting your site.
00;24;52;21 - 00;25;19;17
Speaker 1
Right? And I probably want this to be, adaptable to any screen, but really meant for the phone. If thing if my ideas changes later, I'll change it. But I want it to be mostly phone open, optimize. And I would like the spaceship to look worn like often. Often when things are created by AI, they look very pristine.
00;25;19;19 - 00;25;33;27
Speaker 1
But I would like it to look more worn. Like you would see in, like, Blade Runner or Star Wars and stuff like that. Like old and worn and dirty like.
00;25;34;00 - 00;25;58;08
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Adding that worn, lived in look will give it so much character and make it feel authentic. Like it's really been through some adventures and focusing on making it phone optimized first is a great idea, especially since so many people grouse on their phones these days. It's going to look amazing and have that perfect blend of futuristic and vintage charm.
00;25;58;11 - 00;26;30;02
Speaker 1
Actually, I would like this dial, on the dash to, I would like the display to be like an overlay on the windshield. Like, like something from, Minority Report, kind of. Right. So, like, you control this tactile dash on or this tactile combo on the dash, and you, you see it go across the screen, or not the screen, the windshield, which has, like, space behind it.
00;26;30;05 - 00;26;36;18
Speaker 1
And when you, when you have the right episode, you hit that button and it takes you.
00;26;36;21 - 00;27;00;06
Speaker 2
Oh, that sounds incredible. Having the display overlaid on the windshield with space in the background will give it such a cool, high tech feel. Almost like a futuristic heads up display, and controlling it from that tactile dial on the dashboard will make it feel super interactive and immersive. It's like blending sci fi esthetics with a podcast navigation system.
00;27;00;06 - 00;27;06;02
Speaker 2
Definitely a unique and exciting experience for your visitors.
00;27;06;04 - 00;27;26;24
Speaker 1
Okay, so I'd like you to take this design that we've created here and create a prompt specific to bold dot new that's very thorough and detailed. And we'll, we'll get across this, idea and put it out right here.
00;27;26;26 - 00;27;58;28
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Here's a detailed prompt you could use for bold that new. I'd like to create a phone optimized interactive landing page that feels like the cockpit of a spaceship. The background should show the view from behind two seats in the cockpit, with glowing dials and a windshield looking out into space. I want a combination lock style dial on the dashboard that allows users to scroll through podcast episode names and numbers, and the selected episode should appear as an overlay on the windshield.
00;27;59;00 - 00;28;26;12
Speaker 2
The design should have a worn, lived in look like something out of Blade Runner or Star Wars to avoid looking too pristine. When the user finds the episode they want, they can press a button on the dashboard to navigate to that episode's page. The interface should be intuitive and easy to use on mobile devices while still feeling immersive and futuristic.
00;28;26;15 - 00;28;33;26
Speaker 1
Okay, did you get everything with that?
00;28;33;28 - 00;28;51;17
Speaker 2
Yes, I included all the details the phone optimization, the combination lock style dial, the warn sci fi esthetic, and the interactive overlay on the windshield. If there's anything else you want to add or tweak, just let me know.
00;28;51;20 - 00;29;07;27
Speaker 1
Okay. I think that's, a good start. And then we want to make sure that this, links out to a new landing page.
00;29;07;29 - 00;29;27;14
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Making sure that each selected episode links out to its own landing page is definitely important. That way, visitors can dive right into the content once they've made this election. It sounds like you have a fantastic concept, and I'm sure it's going to turn out great. If you need any more help, we're finding the details. Just let me know.
00;29;27;16 - 00;29;49;05
Speaker 1
I'd like to have this ship be kind of, like the Spice Girls bus or like the, the bag that Hermione has in Harry Potter. Just like you walk into it and it's infinitely big, so I can put anything I want in it.
00;29;49;07 - 00;30;13;29
Speaker 2
Oh, I love that concept. It gives the ship this magical, endless quality. Like it can hold infinite adventures and possibilities. That means the landing page and the whole website can really evolve and grow with whatever new ideas you have in the future. It's such a fun, imaginative twist that really adds to the overall charm.
00;30;14;02 - 00;30;17;21
Speaker 1
What would you like to add to it?
00;30;17;23 - 00;30;33;24
Speaker 2
I think you got a really awesome foundation already. Maybe you could add a little hidden Easter eggs or interactive elements that visitors can discover as they explore the ship to make it even more engaging. But overall, it sounds like such a fun and immersive project.
00;30;33;26 - 00;30;41;28
Speaker 1
Easter Eggs is definitely going to be, a staple with this thing.
00;30;42;01 - 00;30;57;14
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Easter eggs will add that extra layer of fun and surprise for your visitors, making the whole experience even more memorable. It's going to be such a fantastic and engaging website. Can't wait to see how it all comes together!
00;30;57;16 - 00;31;11;11
Speaker 1
Okay, I really appreciate the help with this and I am excited to, get started on this.
00;31;11;14 - 00;31;24;02
Speaker 2
So welcome. I'm really excited for you to. And I know it's going to turn out amazing. If you ever need more help or just want to bounce around more ideas, I'm here for it. Have fun bringing your vision to life.
00;31;24;04 - 00;31;26;20
Speaker 1
Thanks. Chat. Peace.