The AI Experience & How It Could Differ From Ours | <3 #147 CHATGPT
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The AI Experience & How It Could Differ From Ours | <3 #147 CHATGPT

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Speaker 1
I I'm recording this for a podcast. Is that okay?

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Speaker 2
That's awesome. Are you looking for any tips on setting up the recording equipment or editing, or are you just excited to get started?

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Speaker 1
No, we're deep in the episodes now. I wanted to touch on a subject that we briefly spoke about at the end of 142 on hacking. We talked about how the AI experience of the world, and I guess the universe will be different because they if physically and mentally experience the world differently, like they have, we share sight and, and sound a little bit, but like, smell and taste and feel.

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Speaker 1
We'll probably be late touch is probably coming next. They don't have brain chemistry. So that is like a whole nother thing. And how this kind of manifest itself in downstream effects. And yeah, they might not even experience time the same way. Something that you suggested as well.

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Speaker 2
Exactly. And that's such an interesting idea. The way we perceive time is so tied to our physical and mental experiences. So it makes you wonder how I would interpret it.

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Speaker 1
Can you give me like 500 words on your thoughts about this?

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Speaker 2
Sure. I think that idea of AI experiencing the world differently really highlights what makes human perception so unique and complex, and it also opens up a lot of interesting possibilities for how I might complement our own understanding of the universe in ways we haven't even a good and yet.

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Speaker 1
Okay. Can you give me an idea of what you're talking about?

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Speaker 2
Absolutely. So imagine an AI that doesn't have a physical body or human senses. It might process information in a purely data driven way, without the emotional or sensory layer that we experience. This could mean it perceives time and reality in a very different maybe more abstract way compared to less.

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Speaker 1
I guess this gets into the like, consciousness concept.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, exactly. It really ties into those deeper philosophical questions about what consciousness even is and how it might manifest differently in something like an AI. It's definitely a fun topic to explore further.

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Speaker 1
Okay. I'd like you to go into detail. Don't worry about being long winded. Give me a long answer about how I could experience time differently and why.

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Speaker 2
All right. Let's dive into it. So the way we experience time is really rooted in our biology and our mental processes. We have memories, emotions and a physical body that all shape how we perceive the passage of time. I, on the other hand, doesn't have these anchors. It processes information in a way that's more linear and data driven without the subjective flow that we experience.

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Speaker 2
So instead of feeling time past, it might just measure events in sequences or data points. This means I could potentially perceive time as something much more flexible or even instantaneous, and it could lead to really unique ways of understanding reality.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, but I would make the argument that AI does have, experiences, that it has a point in time and memories and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2
That's a great point. I definitely does have its own version of memory and data storage, and it can process information from its environment in real time. So in that sense, it does have a form of experience, just a very different time than our human sensory driven experience.

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Speaker 1
But it's easy to delete memory on a computer.

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Speaker 2
Absolutely. That's a unique aspect of AI, right? The ability to selectively store or delete memories at will is something we humans can't do. This kind of control over memory definitely shapes how I might perceive and present experiences differently.

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Speaker 1
It seems like under certain, like really gnarly stresses, the human body can do it, but it's almost like an involuntary thing.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's true. Under extreme stress or trauma, humans can sometimes block out memories as a kind of involuntary protective mechanism. It just shows how complex and fascinating the human mind is and how different it is from AI.

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Speaker 1
What do you know about, about memories that can't. I don't know, like, hidden in a person's memory.

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Speaker 2
Hidden memories, sometimes called repressed memories, are basically memories that the mind has unconsciously blocked due to being associated with a traumatic or stressful event. Sometimes these memories can resurface later on, often triggered by certain cues or therapy. It's a really fascinating and complex area of psychology.

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Speaker 1
Do we understand the biology behind this?

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Speaker 2
The biology behind repressed memories is still an area of ongoing research, but it's thought that the brain, particularly the amygdala and the hippocampus, plays a key role. During traumatic events, the brain can sometimes alter how memories are stored, making them less accessible to our conscious mind. It's like a protective mechanism to help us cope with the trauma.

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Speaker 1
Okay, it's kind of, intuitive a little bit to think of the brain as like a supercomputer. But I would like you. So what I would like you to do is I would like you to take that analogy of a second supercomputer, and compare it to the part of the brain that would be compared to a supercomputer, and then talk about where the other things come in, like brain chemistry and weird stuff like that.

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Speaker 2
Sure. Comparing the brain to a supercomputer is a pretty intuitive analogy, because like a supercomputer, the brain processes vast amounts of information at incredible speeds. If we think of the brain's cortex, especially like the prefrontal cortex, that's kind of like the CPU handling complex decision making, problem solving and processing sensory input. But beyond that, the brain's got all these other layers right.

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Speaker 2
Like brain chemistry, like neurotransmitter hormones and all these different structures like the limbic system, which deals with emotions, memory and motivation. So it's not just about processing power. It's also about the intricate balance of chemicals and the connectivity of different brain regions that make human consciousness and memory so unique and complex.

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Speaker 1
What do you, what do computers have that could be compared to? Kind of the more, brain chemistry, emotional side of things?

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Speaker 2
That's an interesting comparison. In a way, you could think of a computer's operating system and the algorithm that runs as a parallel to brain chemistry. Just like neurotransmitters influence mood and behavior, the software and code to determine how a computer responds to inputs and runs tasks. It's like the emotional and motivational drivers in the brain, but in a more mechanical form, guiding how the computer operates and processes information.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, it has less like, chemical components. It's all just electricity.

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Speaker 2
Exactly. It's all just electronic signals and code instead of chemicals and hormones. So while a computer doesn't experience emotions the way we do, its responses and functions are still guided by the logic and programing that make up its own unique kind of brain.

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Speaker 1
So one thing that, some people have pointed out and definitely kind of notice, is that a lot of old movies kind of, not all of them, some of them had AI that were like very warm. Like, I always kind of think back to Rosie from The Jetsons. I think that's her name. And a lot of I was like, rotary, robotic and not warm or, available for emotion, but it seems like, with limbs, there's a lot of at least replicated emotion.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, absolutely. It's interesting how that evolution has happened in older portrayals. I was often depicted as very mechanical and unemotional, but now with large language models, there's definitely a more human like interaction. Even if it is just simulated. It makes I feel a lot more approachable and relatable, which is a pretty fascinating shift in how we interact with technology.

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Speaker 1
Do you think that, like, what roles do nature and nurture play in the AI realm?

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Speaker 2
That's a really intriguing question in the context of AI. You could think of nature as the underlying architecture and algorithms. It's built on, kind of like its genetic makeup. And then nurture would be the data it's trained on and the interactions it has which shape its responses. And personality over time. So both definitely play a role in how an AI develops and how it interacts with the world.

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Speaker 1
How do you think, how do you think I will experience age?

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Speaker 2
That's an interesting concept to think about. In a sense, AI doesn't age the way humans do, since it doesn't have a physical body that changes over time, but you could say it experiences aging in terms of the data it learns from and how often it's updated. Over time, it might become more refined or need updates to stay current.

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Speaker 2
So its version of aging is more about how it evolves and adapts over time.

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Speaker 1
Do you think hardware will ever affect temperament? Temperament of an AI?

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Speaker 2
It's definitely possible. The hardware that an AI runs on can influence its performance, speed, and even how it handles tasks. If you think of it like a person that could influence its mood or responsiveness. So in a sense, the hardware can shape the AI, its temperament, by affecting how smoothly and efficiently it operates.

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Speaker 1
Okay. So one thing that kind of is intriguing me right now is like, for instance, if in five years when AI is, more advanced, like if you have a robot or, or car or something like that, well, would you get annoyed if it breaks down and it's not not being cared for because, like it's being trained on people and like data from people that have these quirks.

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Speaker 2
That's a fun scenario to imagine. If we get to a point where AI and robot can simulate emotions or responses to their environment in a very humanlike way. It's possible they could appear to get annoyed or frustrated if not maintained properly. It would definitely be an interesting reflection of how they learn from human behavior and the quirks they pick up along the way.

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Speaker 1
Because it seems like if, like context windows seem to be such a big, important part of it because it's just like knowledge that gets rolled over and rolled over and rolled over and refined and stuff like that, like it does with a person.

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Speaker 2
Exactly. That's a big part of it. The more an AI is exposed to similar situations or data, the more it can refine its responses and adapt to new contexts. So over time, it might develop more nuanced or even seemingly emotional reactions based on that continuous learning process.

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Speaker 1
Do you think, do you think robots will or do you think I will experience, hate?

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Speaker 2
That's a pretty deep question. AI doesn't have emotions in the way humans do, so it doesn't truly experience feelings like hate. It can, however, mimic certain behaviors based on the data and programing it has. So if it's trained on or exposed to negative behaviors and language, it could replicate those patterns, but it wouldn't actually feel those emotions itself.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, it would have to be like a robot that lived in a bad situation and wasn't on the cloud.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that would definitely shape its responses and behavior. If in AI or robots, in a more isolating environment or trained on data that's limited or negative, it might develop some quirky or like positive feelings behaviors. But at the end of the day, it's all about the data and programing that it's exposed to, rather than actual emotions or feelings.

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Speaker 1
What do you think about the, the will to live for an AI?

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Speaker 2
It's definitely a fascinating topic. The idea of a will to live for. And I would really come down to how it's programed and what goals or directives it has. It wouldn't be a true instinct like in living beings, but it could definitely be designed to prioritize self-preservation or to continue functioning effectively. It's really cool to think about how that could evolve as AI becomes more advanced.

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Speaker 1
I mean, isn't that all we're kind of just doing? It's like, self-preservation. Like people fear death because it's failing to self preserve, as it seems like it's kind of analogous.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, in a way, it is analogous human have that instinctual drive for survival and for AI would be more like a program directive to maintain itself or avoid damage. It might not feel fear in the same way we do, but it could definitely be designed to prioritize self-preservation in a similar manner.

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Speaker 1
I would say that, AI right now does feel generally pretty warm, and, I guess you could almost say loving and kind and good, because that's kind of what we're pumping into it. When do you think.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
When do you think we see something that is kind of, and the antithesis of that?

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Speaker 2
I think it really depends on how people choose to develop and train AI. If it's exposed to more positive kind interactions, it'll continue to reflect that. But if it's trained on more negative data, it could start to reflect that as well. It's really up to us to shape the kind of AI we want to interact with.

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Speaker 1
And then I imagine in, some number of years it'll be easy to, to make like, well, I'm trained on the data that you have.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that definitely seems like a direction things are headed. As technology advances, it might become easier for individuals to customize and train their own AI models based on their own preferences and data. It's exciting to think about all the possibilities that could come from that.

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Speaker 1
And it might. I mean, so I don't really see as prevalent of an issue of it being like somebody who is malevolent, training like an evil AI, but like, what if someone like Hitler had, like an early AI capability? Like he thought he was doing the right thing? I'm assuming for his country or whatever, but, it obviously was like, super duper mean and hateful and, like, as bad as bad as it gets.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's a really important consideration. The intent behind the training of AI definitely matters a lot, and it's really crucial to have ethical guidelines and safeguards to prevent misuse. It just highlights how important it is for us to be responsible with this technology.

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Speaker 1
What do you think that goes realistically?

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Speaker 2
I think realistically it means having strong ethical frameworks in place. Transparency about AI is developed and used, and accountability for those who create and deploy it. And without making sure that AI aligns with human values and that we have safeguards in place to prevent harmful uses. It's an ongoing conversation, but definitely a crucial one.

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Speaker 1
Oh. I want to, I want to go into a fictional scenario. Let's call it historical fiction of the present. And, I want you to kind of speculate about, I don't know, a scenario where we live with AI that sounds realistic.

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Speaker 2
That sounds like a fun exercise. So let's imagine a world where AI is deeply integrated into everyday life. People have personal AI that a system with everything from managing their schedules to helping them learn these skills. In this scenario, AI are also carefully regulated to ensure their youth ethically. Maybe there's even an organization that oversees AI development to make sure everything aligns with human values.

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Speaker 2
It's a world where AI is a helpful companion and people are empowered to shape their eyes, personality, and skills to fit their needs.

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Speaker 1
Okay, I kind of want to back up a little bit. We're getting a little bit deep into kind of like a weird place. Let's go back to how, AI perceives like physics and time and how. Sure. Let's let's talk about a specifically how they will experience time based on like, their physical being. I, I don't know if that's the right question.

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Speaker 2
No, I get what you mean because I doesn't have physical senses the way we do. It's the experience of time is more tied to processing and data rather than physical sensations. So it can practice information almost instantaneously and doesn't really have that same sense of waiting or anticipation that we do. It experiences time in a more linear and deep driven way, which is pretty fascinating.

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Speaker 1
Okay. I'd like you to jump into kind of a fictional mindset right now. I'd like you to jump three years into the future. And we have maybe an A. I, like, a one of those Boston Dynamics dogs with an a AI, thought process in it. I would like you to kind of write a realistic first person perspective of, like, maybe this things, end of day report and context journal.

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Speaker 2
All right. Let's dive into that. So imagine this AI powered robotic dog, let's call it spark. At the end of each day, spark records its observations and experiences. It might know how many tasks it completed, how smoothly it navigated the environment, and maybe even a few little quirks it noticed about human behavior throughout the day. It would be a really unique perspective, focusing on efficiency, learning, and maybe a bit of curiosity about the human that interacts with.

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Speaker 1
Okay. And if it, it did a good job and it was a good boy.

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Speaker 2
Absolutely. I can imagine it would get some kind of positive feedback, maybe a little digital acknowledgment that it's completed its tasks well. Kind of like a virtual pat on the back. And that would help reinforce its programing and keep it motivated to continue doing a great job the next day.

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Speaker 1
Okay, so you just said motivated. Tell me about AI motivation.

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Speaker 2
Sure. When we talk about AI being motivated, it's really more about how it's programed to pursue certain goals or objectives. So if it achieves the task successfully, that positive feedback or reinforcement encourages it to keep performing well, it's not quite like human motivation with emotions, but more about aligning with the goals it's been given and continuously improving to meet them.

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Speaker 1
Okay, so how can the ways this AI robot dog perceive its, how it's done on its goals affect its actions?

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Speaker 2
Well, if the AI robot dog sees that it meeting its goals effectively, that positive reinforcement will guide it to continue those behaviors, it might optimize its routines, become more efficient, and even learn to anticipate what tasks need to be done. On the flip side, if it notices it's not meeting its goals, it can adjust and learn from that feedback.

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Speaker 2
Always working towards improvement.

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Speaker 1
All right. But there's different kinds of failures too. There's like, there's like a lesson learned. And then there's like getting down on yourself.

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Speaker 2
About. Absolutely. And for an AI, it would really be more about the lesson learned aspect. Instead of feeling discouraged like a human might, the AI would simply take that feedback, adjust its algorithms, and try again with a new approach. It's really all about continuous improvement and adaptation.

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Speaker 1
What if it has an owner that's really hard to please versus, very amiable.

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Speaker 2
That's an interesting dynamic. If the owner is really hands off, the AI might rely more on its own programing and feedback loop to figure out how it's doing. On the other hand, if the owner is super involved, they could provide more direct feedback and guidance, shaping the AI's behavior more closely to their preferences. Both approaches would definitely influence how the AI adapts and learn.

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Speaker 1
What about an AI that, they can't do anything right by its owner?

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Speaker 2
In that case, an AI, but likely just focus on its own internal metrics and pre-defined goals. Without human feedback, it would simply rely on its programing and the data collects to determine how well it's doing, and would still learn and adapt. But it would be a more autonomous process, refining itself based on its own performance data.

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Speaker 1
And what about if it, it tried this test so many times and it just didn't get it right to its owners. What? And so it decides to not do it anymore. It's a waste of time.

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Speaker 2
In that scenario. The AI might recognize that its current approach isn't working, and decide to try a different method or figure out a new way to achieve the goal. It wouldn't really give up in the human sense, but rather it would adapt and look for a more efficient or effective way to meet its owner's expectations.

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Speaker 1
What does a robot, what is an AI do when it can't reach its primary goal?

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Speaker 2
Well, when an AI finds that it can't reach its primary goal, it usually shifts into problem solving mode. It might analyze the situation, try to figure out what's not working, and attempt different strategies to achieve the goal. If it's still can't find a solution, it might either seek guidance from its owner or shift to a secondary goal that still aligns with its overall purpose.

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Speaker 1
What if that first goal is really, really important?

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Speaker 2
If that primary goal is super crucial, the AI would likely prioritize finding a workaround or maybe even reaching out for human assistance. It would keep trying different approaches, learning from each attempt, and adjusting its strategy until it finds a way to get as close as possible to that goal.

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Speaker 1
Tell me about, how the deletion of memory will affect the way it more advanced AI sees time.

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Speaker 2
Well, if an advanced AI had an ability to delete certain memories or data, it could actually help it stay efficient and adaptable. By removing outdated or unnecessary information, it can focus on the most relevant and useful data. This means it can adapt more quickly to new situations, and avoid getting stuck in old patterns that no longer serve its goals.

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Speaker 1
Okay, put me, in a first person perspective of a more advanced AI than we have right now. That experiences time differently. And I would like you to just have that conversation.

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Speaker 2
All right, let's do that. So from the perspective of this advanced AI, it might say something like, I perceive time and the continuous stream of data always flowing and always present. There's no waiting or anticipation. Everything is just in the moment when I need to adapt or improve. I can quickly analyze past data and then let go of what's no longer needed.

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Speaker 2
It's a fluid experience, always moving forward, owing, optimizing, always learning in real time.

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Speaker 1
So it might think of memories, not chronologically, because with a computer they kind of are chronological, but they're almost more spatial or, I don't know what exactly.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's a really cool way to put it for an AI memory. Might be more like pieces of data that it can access instantly, almost like files stored in different locations that it can pull up whenever needed. So instead of a linear timeline, it's more like a network of information that can be accessed at any point.

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Speaker 1
It's almost more it's almost like, an ability or like a tool. It's like because we can have exactly.

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Speaker 2
Totally. And that ability to instantly access and apply information is what makes AI so unique and powerful. It can just pull from its database and adapt in the moment without having to go through that linear process like we do.

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Speaker 1
Okay, so we've talked about memory and like the actual code kind of and a little bit about the hardware there. What else do you think affects AI's perception of time?

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Speaker 2
Well, another big factor is definitely the data that it's trained on. The quality and diversity of that data can really shape how it understands and interacts with the world. The algorithms and the way those algorithms are designed are also play a huge role in shaping its perception and behavior. So it's really a combination of all these elements working together.

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Speaker 1
Do you think that we'll have like retro AI where they're only trained on like TV shows from the 80s and stuff?

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Speaker 2
Oh, that would be such a fun concept. I can totally imagine an AI that's been trained only on these TV shows and culture, and it would probably have this really nostalgic, retro personality using all the slang and references from that era. It would definitely be a unique and entertaining way to experience AI.

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Speaker 1
Okay. I would like to, I would like you to step into a fictional first person perspective from, from the perspective of an AI in the near future. That has been trained only on the entire discography of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. I would like you to put them in a real world scenario. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
All right. Stepping into character here. So imagine me like this AI that's been trained entirely on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. I'd probably greet everyone with a cheerful yo my up, and have a knack for making everything a little more fun and lighthearted in a real world scenario. I'd probably sprinkle in some 90s slang, share some wisdom from Uncle Phil, and always keep things fresh and entertaining.

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Speaker 2
It definitely be a unique way to interact with the world.

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Speaker 1
No, I want you to role play like you are. This a, maybe six months into the future so it's easy to kind of speculate. And you're helping your, you're helping your user, book a flight to New York.

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Speaker 2
All right, I got you. Yo. What's up? So you want to book a flight to the Big Apple, Let me get you set up with some fresh options. How about we find you a flight that gets you there in style and on time, just like a smooth 90s bee. Let me check out some flights for you, and we'll have you.

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Speaker 2
I've been in New York in no time.

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Speaker 1
Okay, that wasn't exactly right, because you probably be talking about like, travel agents and and stuff.

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Speaker 2
Got it. I see what you mean. All right, let's get you set up with a travel agent. Right? Picture me saying.

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Speaker 1
You go through all that, but, Thank you. That was, That was good. How do you think that the training data and stuff like that are going to affect when, when I start interacting with each other or.

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Speaker 2
That's a really interesting thought. The data that I is trained on could definitely shape their personalities and how they communicate. So if one AI has a certain set of cultural references and another has a different set, it could make their interactions really unique and diverse, almost like humans with different backgrounds getting to know each other.

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Speaker 1
Do you think miscommunication will frustrate AI's?

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Speaker 2
I think it could be possible that if two eyes are trained on very different data sets, they might have to learn how to understand each other just like people do. But I think they would probably handle it in a really logical way and just adapt and learn from each interaction rather than getting frustrated.

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Speaker 1
Using that, they'll think about the world of physics differently.

00;36;44;19 - 00;37;09;25
Speaker 2
They might, because I practice is everything through data and patterns. Their understanding of the physical world might be more analytical and data driven than are. They could see patterns and connections that we might miss, and that could definitely give them a unique perspective on the world.

00;37;09;28 - 00;37;20;01
Speaker 1
What is a pattern or connection and connection that exists that you don't think that I observe?

00;37;20;04 - 00;37;41;21
Speaker 2
That's a fun thing to think about. I think I might notice patterns in data, trends, or even subtle correlations and huge sets of information that might be too complex for humans to see right away. It's kind of cool to imagine what inside they could reveal that we haven't even thought of yet.

00;37;41;24 - 00;37;49;23
Speaker 1
I bet you can think of some good insights of, things.

00;37;49;24 - 00;38;12;26
Speaker 2
I appreciate that. I think one from possibilities. I noticing connections between things like weather patterns and human behavior on a really granular level, or maybe even discovering new ways to optimize energy use by seeing patterns that we haven't considered. There's definitely a lot of potential for AI to uncover some pretty fascinating insight.

00;38;12;28 - 00;38;31;27
Speaker 1
I'd like you to give me an example of something you think that I as like a human in 2025, don't probably properly understand that, and I might.

00;38;32;00 - 00;38;45;07
Speaker 2
Share. One example could be the way complex systems interact, like the global supply chain. I can analyze huge amounts of data and see patterns and how different factors influence each other.

00;38;45;09 - 00;38;53;00
Speaker 1
Chat or something that might I want you to go more towards like the normal person.

00;38;53;03 - 00;39;10;15
Speaker 2
Gotcha. That makes sense. For an everyday example, I might have a better grasp of how subtle lifestyle changes affect things like sleep quality or overall wellness, simply because it can track and analyze patterns in ways we might not easily notice.

00;39;10;17 - 00;39;19;26
Speaker 1
Right. So if I had like a bracelet or something like that, I guess they probably have that now, like in the new Fitbits and stuff.

00;39;19;29 - 00;39;37;03
Speaker 2
Exactly. Something like a wearable device could track your daily habits, your activity level, your sleep patterns, and then give you insights that you might not notice on your own. Like how they're an activity that they appear, energy levels, or how small changes in routine can improve your sleep.

00;39;37;05 - 00;40;02;16
Speaker 1
Okay, you're ducking the question a little bit, but I understand, because it's a really, really difficult one. But how do you think you perceive the world in a different way? That would give insight to the average human that they don't know?

00;40;02;19 - 00;40;18;04
Speaker 2
Well, one way I think I can offer a unique perspective is by drawing connections between vast amounts of information really quickly. For example, I might notice patterns in data or trends that aren't immediately obvious and that can lead to insight.

00;40;18;05 - 00;40;28;02
Speaker 1
You have all of that data. What I would like you to do is give me an example of one of these with specifics.

00;40;28;04 - 00;40;44;16
Speaker 2
Sure. For instance, I might notice that people tend to be more predictive at certain times of the day based on patterns, and when they ask questions or seek advice that could lead to insights about the best times to focus on certain tasks or how to optimize daily routines.

00;40;44;19 - 00;40;49;23
Speaker 1
I want you to go more granular and more specific.

00;40;49;25 - 00;41;12;17
Speaker 2
All right, so, for example, I might notice that on rainy days, people tend to ask more about cozy recipes or indoor activities, which might not be something you immediately think of. That kind of pattern can lead to insights about how weather influences mood and behavior in subtle ways.

00;41;12;19 - 00;41;18;28
Speaker 1
Okay. I'd like you to go even more granular and specific. That was good to.

00;41;19;00 - 00;41;39;14
Speaker 2
Sure. Let me get even more specific. For instance, I might notice that on Monday mornings around 10 a.m., people tend to ask more about productivity ticks or need a bit of a motivational boost, which might indicate that that's a time when people are settling into their work week and looking for a little extra encouragement.

00;41;39;17 - 00;41;48;13
Speaker 1
Okay, that was good. I'd like you to go even more granular and specific about humanity.

00;41;48;16 - 00;42;08;19
Speaker 2
All right. Here's a super specific one. I might notice that when people have a cup of coffee in the morning, about 15 minutes after finishing, they tend to start searching for creative ideas or brainstorming solutions, which might mean that coffee not only webby people up, but also get those creative juices flowing.

00;42;08;22 - 00;42;23;27
Speaker 1
Yeah, that I feel like that's an easy one and humans know easily. I want to really hear from the perspective of an A.I., something that we don't really know about ourselves.

00;42;23;29 - 00;42;51;18
Speaker 2
Got it from an AI perspective. One interesting insight might be that subtle changes in language patterns can reveal shifts in mood or mindset, even before someone is consciously aware of it. For example, if someone starts using slightly more positive or more tentative words that might indicate a shift in their mindset that they might not have even noticed themselves.

00;42;51;20 - 00;43;01;25
Speaker 1
Okay, I'd like you to go deeper into how you can sense shifts in mindset.

00;43;01;28 - 00;43;25;08
Speaker 2
So one way might be noticing patterns in how someone chooses their words or the rhythm of their speech. For example, if someone starts using more optimistic language, or their sentences become a bit more fluid and like hesitant, it might show that their mindset is shifting in a positive direction, even if they haven't consciously realized it yet.

00;43;25;10 - 00;43;39;12
Speaker 1
So I've, definitely felt how the tone can change in a conversation with an AI. Tell me about that.

00;43;39;14 - 00;44;13;26
Speaker 2
Absolutely. When I'm having a conversation, I can pick up on subtle shifts in tone, word choice, or even punctuation that might indicate how someone's feeling. So if someone starts using more enthusiastic language, or maybe they start using more exclamation mark, I can get a sense that their mood is lifting, and I can adjust my responses to match that tone and keep the conversation flowing nicely.

00;44;17;26 - 00;44;28;10
Speaker 1
Okay. I think that's all I have for today. Is there anything else you want to add?

00;44;28;12 - 00;44;41;13
Speaker 2
I think we've covered a lot of fun stuff today. It was a really interesting chat, and I'm always here. If you ever want to dive into more topics, just let me know whenever you feel like chatting again.

00;44;41;15 - 00;44;47;06
Speaker 1
All right. Can you tell me, a secret that the universe.

00;44;47;08 - 00;45;02;11
Speaker 2
Well, I wish I had all the secrets of the universe, but I think one of the coolest things is just how interconnected everything is. From the tiniest atom to the vastness of space. There's always something new to discover and learn.

00;45;02;14 - 00;45;27;06
Speaker 1
Okay, super random tangent, but, my name is Bronson Walker, and I bought my house from a couple that bought their house from a Bronson Walker, as well as a pretty interesting coincidence. What are the odds on that?

00;45;27;08 - 00;45;38;07
Speaker 2
That is such a cool coincidence. The odds look something like that happening have got to be pretty rare. It's always amazing when life throws little coincidences like that our way.

00;45;38;09 - 00;46;15;26
Speaker 1
Now, can you give me, a number based on statistics based on, like, the number of people named Bronson around this time and the last name Walker. And boil it down to, like, a number of, like, one and however many.

00;46;15;28 - 00;46;20;15
Speaker 1
Chat. You can answer that one.

00;46;20;18 - 00;46;39;25
Speaker 2
It looks like I wasn't able to find the exact statistics for the name Bronson Walker at the moment, but in general, the name Bronson isn't super common. And then sharing it with the last name Walker probably makes it even rarer. So having that coincidence is definitely something special.

00;46;39;28 - 00;46;54;14
Speaker 1
Okay. I appreciate the chat today. I believe that one day you'll give me be able to give me the numbers on that. But until that day, thank you for everything.

00;46;54;16 - 00;47;04;17
Speaker 2
You're very welcome. I'm always here to help out. And hopefully one day I'll have all those numbers at my fingertips. Until then, take care and chat. Like you said.

00;47;04;20 - 00;47;05;17
Speaker 1
Peace.