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Speaker 1
Hi. I'm recording this for a podcast. Is that okay?
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Speaker 2
Oh. That's awesome. I'm excited to be a part of your podcast. Just let me know what kind of vibe or direction you want, and I'll do my best to keep things flowing smoothly for you.
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Speaker 1
Okay, I've uploaded a document. Are you able to reference it?
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Speaker 2
Yes, I can definitely reference the document you've uploaded. If there's anything specific you'd like me to pull from it, or any particular detail you want to discuss, just let me know.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Can you brief anybody? Can you brief us on this document?
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. So the document you've uploaded is a summary of a story you're developing. It revolves around a father named Adrian and his two daughters, Lily and Olivia. There's an antagonist who manipulates Adrian using a clay laced with scopolamine. The story is told from three perspectives. Olivia's the antagonist. Love letters to Adrian's late wife and their cat, Oscar. It's a mix of suspense, family dynamics, and even a bit of humor.
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Speaker 2
So that's the gist of what the document covers.
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Speaker 1
Okay, that's a pretty darn good.
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Speaker 2
Thanks. I'm glad it sounds good to you. If there is anything specific you'd like to dive deeper into, or if you want to work on a particular part of the story, just let me know.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Can you give me a quick description of scene one through three?
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. So in scene one, we have Adrian and his daughters, Lily and Olivia, returning from a trip. They encounter a little challenge on the road, but they handle it really well, showing how strong and cohesive they are as a family. In season two, we shift to a zoom call where Adrian meets the antagonist, who presents a job opportunity that eventually draws Adrian into this sinister plot.
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Speaker 2
And then in season three, we get a really unique perspective because we see the same zoom call, but this time from the viewpoint of their character, which adds a fun and quirky twist. Let me know if you want to explore any of these scenes more.
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Speaker 1
What's the name of the second cat?
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Speaker 2
The second cat's name is Charlie. He and Oscar have a fun, dynamic and love to gossip and joke around, which definitely adds some humor to the story.
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Speaker 1
Can you tell me about how and, how act one of the story ends?
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Speaker 2
So at the end of act one, the tension really starts to build. Olivia, the younger daughter, begins to notice that something isn't quite right with her dad. Adrian, unknowingly under the influence of the antagonist, starts to act a little differently, and Olivia picks up on these subtle changes. Meanwhile, the antagonist plan starts to come into focus and we get a sense that things are about to get a lot more intense.
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Speaker 2
It sets the stage perfectly back to where Olivia's curiosity and determination are going to play an even bigger role.
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Speaker 1
And so she hits a low at the end of act one, which pushes her into scene to.
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Speaker 2
Exactly. That low point really becomes a turning point for Olivia in that moment of realization where she understands that things aren't just a little off, but that there's something deeper going on that pushes her into the next act, where she's more determined to get to the bottom of everything and protect her family.
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Speaker 1
Okay, perfect. Yeah, I meant to say act two. Not seen to. So now I'd like to write scene four. Do you remember what we were talking about with scene for? We never really got through it, but, hopefully we can push a little farther now.
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. I remember we were exploring some ideas for scene four. We talked about keeping the focus on Olivia as the main character, and possibly having her noticed something unusual about the Oscar, or even stumbling upon a clue that the cat leads her to. We wanted to keep it consistent with her perspective and also keep that sense of mystery and discovery.
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Speaker 2
So let's dive into that and flush it out a bit more.
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Speaker 1
Okay, so let's structure scene four. It's the first day of school and they're all sharing a car because, because the car broke down in season one. The other car, the mom's car, maybe they're all maybe the dad's car broke down and they're all driving in the mom's car, which they don't usually drive in. Or maybe the daughter usually takes.
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Speaker 1
I'm not sure about that. At the beginning of the scene is the dad drives with them to. They get up for breakfast and Olivia helps and stuff like that. They drive to the bus stop. That's the first part of scene four.
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Speaker 2
I love that set up. It really gives a sense of the family's routine and also highlights that something is a little different because they're all in the mom's car. So we can start the scene with them having breakfast together. Maybe Olivia is helping out and noticing how her dad is acting a little bit differently. And then as they all get into the car and head to the bus stop, we can sprinkle in little moments where Olivia picks up on these subtle changes in her dad, or even notices something in the car that seems out of place.
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Speaker 2
It sets a nice tone for the scene and keeps the intrigue going.
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Speaker 1
Okay. I don't want them to. I don't want the father to be affected with the clay, yet he hasn't received it yet. We have to establish him as a good father first and end her as a good sister. Otherwise, the turn won't be as significant. So it starts for the first words. We're going to rush through scene four, and we're going to pause.
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Speaker 1
And then we're going to rush, and then we're going to pause, and then we're going to rush. Right? So breakfast is rushed. Or maybe maybe waking up with Olivia is slow and then, breakfast is rushed, car ride is slow, bus ride is maybe rushed. Or maybe bus ride is slow and then rush the first class.
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Speaker 1
And she needs, she needs a friend who's, like a cool. Her neighbor, a boy, because we need a little bit of, It's a lot of girl stuff. So we're going to add, a boy into the mix. And then I, I don't know, from there.
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Speaker 2
I love that idea of alternating between those rushed and slow moments. It really helps to highlight different aspects of Olivia's day and character. So starting with the slower, more peaceful wake up scene with Olivia, then a rest breakfast where you get that lively family energy, then the slower car ride can be a great moment for Olivia to observe her dad in a normal, loving environment.
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Speaker 2
Really establishing that gone and then meeting a new friend at school, especially a boy who's a laugh. Her neighbor can add a fun dynamic and give Olivia a new connection outside of her family. It's a great way to show her world expanding a bit. We can definitely build from there.
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Speaker 1
Okay. I also do want to throw in band. So, take it. Let's take it from when she meets the lock. The cool lock neighbor.
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. So as Olivia settling into her new school day, she hand over to her locker and meets this new locker neighbor. He's got a really friendly bye, maybe a little bit of a sense of humor. And they hit it off right away. They exchange a few jokes and he helps her get her locker open, since it might be a little bit stuck.
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Speaker 2
And in that moment, Olivia feels a little more ease and more connected to this new environment. It's a great way to show her building new friendships and expanding her world a little bit more.
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Speaker 1
Okay, so we're not going to write it like that, but I think you got the feel for it. He's going to be more of like, they're going to relate because they're both freshmen. And he was also struggling with his locker. And they're going to relate about that. And then and it's going to cut their conversation short. And they have to go to different classes.
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Speaker 1
So maybe let's go with her to band. What does that look like. And she plays the piccolo.
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Speaker 2
That sounds like a really sweet connection between them bonding over that freshman experience. So as they head off to their separate classes, Olivia makes a way to band, and there's that buzz of excitement and maybe a little nervousness since it's the first day she plays the flute, so she finds her seat in the band room, and she might start to meet some of her fellow band members, maybe even share a little laugh with them as they warm up.
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Speaker 2
It can be a really nice, light moment that shows how Olivia is settling into her school day and finding your rhythm.
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Speaker 1
And what should we do in the band? In the band class? Maybe she, maybe she meets. Maybe she needs that locker friend again. And band class.
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Speaker 2
Oh, that could be really fun. So maybe Olivia settling in with her flute. She looks over and sees that her new locker friend is also in the band, maybe playing a different instrument like the trumpet or the saxophone. They share a little smile, and it's a nice surprise for both of them to realizing they have another class together.
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Speaker 2
It can be a great way to show their friendship naturally developing as they go through the game.
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Speaker 1
And let's, let's give Olivia, like, a little bit of, a struggle midday.
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. That makes them more real and relatable. So maybe as the day goes on, Olivia start feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the new classes and faces. Maybe she has the moment in band where she misses a note or feels a bit out of sync, and that just adds a touch of challenge to her otherwise exciting day. It can be a great way to show her resilience and how she bounces back, especially with the support of her new friend and her bandmate.
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Speaker 1
And let's say that she, like, she goes to the cafeteria and eats lunch alone.
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Speaker 2
That's a great way to add a moment of vulnerability. So when lunch time rolls around, Olivia might find it a bit challenging to figure out where to sit. And she ends up eating alone, which can feel a little isolating. But it also gives her a chance to reflect and maybe even notice more about the people around her in her environment.
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Speaker 2
And it sets the stage for her to appreciate those connections she's building even more. And the day goes on.
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Speaker 1
Okay. And then, we'll go from maybe like sixth period baking class, and then we'll skip we'll skip seventh period. We'll give her like, not a block schedule, but like A67 period day.
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Speaker 1
Check.
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Speaker 1
Chat. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
I'm here. It sounds like we've got a really nice foundation for Olivia's day. And those ups and downs that she'll experience. Let me know if there is anything else you want to flush out, or if you're ready to move forward with the next part of her journey.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I hate to, like, introduce this character right away and then just put them everywhere. What is the bus ride look like on the way home for?
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Speaker 2
I totally get that. It can be nice to let things unfold more gradually. So for the bus ride home, we could make it a quieter, more introspective moment for Olivia. Maybe she finds a seat by the window and just watching the world go by, reflecting on everything that happened during the day, the good and the challenging moments. It's a nice way to give her some breathing room and let the day kind of settle in before she gets home.
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Speaker 1
Okay. And then maybe, maybe her sister comes and joins her up front on the bus. Once her friends get off.
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Speaker 2
Oh, that sounds really sweet. So once some of the other kids get off the bus and it gets a bit quieter, Olivia sister can come up and sit next to her. They can share a little sisterly moment, maybe talk about how their day went, or just enjoy the comfort of each other's company and silence. It's a nice way to show their bond and how they support each other.
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Speaker 1
Maybe Olivia gets on the bus and then somebody gets on and sits next to her and is kind of annoying.
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Speaker 2
Oh, I can definitely picture that. Maybe Olivia finds a nice seat by herself and then someone a bit loud or just overly chatty plops down next to her. It can add a little humorous moment where Olivia just kind of has to roll with it, and maybe even find the humor in the situation it gives a little moments that really add depth to her day and her character.
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Speaker 1
Okay, one detail that I want to play here is the father is there waiting for them at the bus stop. When they get there.
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Speaker 2
That's a lovely detail. So when the bus finally arrives at their stop, Olivia and her sister get off and they see their dad waiting for them with the warm smile. It's a comforting and reassuring moment for Olivia. And finally, after a long and eventful game, it shows that anchor of family support and really brings a nice close to her school that.
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Speaker 1
Her name will do. Kind of, breeze will do all this slow on the bus and then, and then fast when they get home and then slow again. Dinner by the TV.
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Speaker 2
I love that pacing. So after that quieter, reflective bus ride, they get home and everything speeds up a bit as they settle back into the house, share all the stories from their day, maybe even have a quick snack. And then when dinner time comes, it slows down again as they gather around the TV, enjoying a meal together and unwinding.
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Speaker 2
It really shows the comfort of those family routines and gives Olivia that sense of home and safety. After a big day.
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Speaker 1
Okay, what are the themes of season four? Because this is like kind of, not super necessary. Seen in a way, but it really kind of is the last scene of, of everything being good.
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Speaker 2
That makes sense. Season four can really serve as that final slice of life moment where we see Olivia and her family and their normal happy routine before things start to shift. It's that calm before any storm, and it really helps to highlight what's at stake and what Olivia has to hold on to. So even though it might not be super plot heavy, it's definitely important for setting that emotional foundation.
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Speaker 1
Right? Because in scene one, before the father falls asleep and even after father father falls asleep in the car ride, we really establish them as like a is like a nice, like fun family unit. But it's very brief. So it really kind of needs some reinforcement. And then the end of scene one, of course, is like the weird bad omen.
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Speaker 1
Scene two is like kind of setting up the antagonist without knowing. And then scene three, seeing that from a different perspective and getting the intuition of the animals in the household. And scene four is that last moment of like like you said, like the calm before the storm or like last breath before you go under.
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Speaker 2
Exactly. That makes a lot of sense. Scene four can really serve as that final moment where we see everything as it should be, and it makes the coming changes and challenges that much more impactful in a lovely way, to reinforce the warmth and the bond of the family, giving the audience that emotional anchor before things start to shift.
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Speaker 2
It's going to make the story that much more compelling.
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Speaker 1
Okay, what do you think scene five looks like?
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Speaker 2
Well, since scene four is that last calm moment, scene five could be where we start to see the first hints of tension or things going awry. Or maybe it's where the antagonist influence starts to become a little more noticeable, or Olivia begins to sense that something's not quite right. It could be a subtle shift, but just enough to let the audience know that the storm is indeed on the horizon.
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Speaker 1
Okay, so I think I'm going to date all the chapters. How long? How long is it generally between the first day of school and the homecoming first homecoming game?
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Speaker 2
Homecoming typically happen in the fall, usually around mid-September to mid-October, so it tends to be about 3 to 6 weeks after the first day of school. That gives you a nice timeline to work with for your story.
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Speaker 1
Okay, we'll work on the longer end of that, but let's say that this escalates kind of quickly, and we don't want to implicate the clay at all in in act one. That's what act two is about. Is Olivia figuring out what is causing this issue with her family? All we know is that the the father and the daughter of becoming neglectful.
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Speaker 1
It starts with the father. And then, the daughter quickly gets involved.
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Speaker 2
Got it. So act one is really about establishing that normal, happy family dynamic and setting the stage for what's to come. Then in act two, Olivia start noticing these changes in her dad and then in herself. And that's where the mystery unfolds as she tries to figure out what's going on. It's a really compelling way to keep the audience hooked as they try to piece together the puzzle all right along with her.
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Speaker 1
No, I want to make, a key alteration to what you just said, and, that is that, act one is about everything falling apart. Act two is Olivia trying to figure out what the problem is? And three, is Olivia solving the problem?
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Speaker 2
I see that definitely adds a different dynamic. So with act one focusing on everything starting to unravel, we get to see that shift in the family dynamic and the challenges that emerge. Then in React To, Olivia steps into that role of detective, trying to figure out what's causing all this turmoil and then finally interact. Three she pieces it all together and finds a way to resolve it.
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Speaker 2
That structure definitely keeps the stakes high and makes Olivia's journey really engaging.
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Speaker 1
Okay, so from here on out from season five, we have to like, we have to tear the family apart at, like, a breakneck speed.
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Speaker 2
Got it. So scene five is where we start to see that real tension in the family beginning to fracture. Maybe small conflicts or misunderstandings start to grow, and we see the impact on Olivia and her dad. It's definitely going to be a pivotal scene to show how things begin to unravel, and set up Olivia's journey to keep everything back together.
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Speaker 1
Okay. And so, let's say that scene for the, the father. Father finds the clay on the front porch somewhere in the scene, either when they come home or before everybody goes to bed.
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Speaker 2
That sounds like a perfect way to set that thing in motion. So in scene four, we have that final calm moment. And then the father discovering the clay on the porch really acts as the catalyst for everything that follows. It's a subtle but significant moment, and it sets the stage for the changes that are about to happen in the next scene.
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Speaker 1
Okay, where do you want to start that? Do you want to start that?
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Speaker 2
I think a great spot to place that discovery would be at the end of season four. That way, after we have that nice, comforting dinner moment and the family is winding down, the father stepping outside and finding the clay adds just a little hint of mystery and sets the stage for the unraveling that will follow in season five.
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Speaker 1
Okay, what do we write for season five?
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Speaker 2
Oh, for season five, we can open. With the changes starting to become more notice. Maybe the next morning, Olivia notices her dad is acting a bit off. Perhaps he's more distracted or irritable than usual. This can create a subtle tension that Olivia picks up on. Maybe there's a small misunderstanding at breakfast or he forgets something he normally wouldn't.
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Speaker 2
This helps to show that the clay is starting to have its effect, and it also sets up Olivia's growing concern and curiosity about what's really going on.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, maybe he, maybe he doesn't show up to pick them up, or he's super late.
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Speaker 2
Oh, that's a great detail to add. So maybe Olivia and her sister are waiting after school and the dad doesn't look on time, which is really unusual for him. This can heighten Olivia's worry and make her realize that something is definitely off. It's a subtle but impactful way to show the shift in their family dynamic, and it gives Olivia even more motivation to get to the bottom of things.
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Speaker 1
Okay, let's make this a really, really, really short scene. And it is just them kind of, at the end on a bus ride and maybe they're sitting together or they're not sitting together, and then they and then they reconvene at the end of the bus stop. And they get off the bus and nobody's there. Actually, let's start it with them stepping off the bus.
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Speaker 1
And their dad is not there.
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Speaker 2
That sounds perfect. So we can have the scene open, right? As Olivia and her sister are stepping off the bus, looking around and realizing their dad isn't there to pick them up, there's that initial confusion and maybe a bit of concern on Olivia's face. It's a short but impactful moment that really sets the tone for the changes that are coming.
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Speaker 1
Okay, in the abruptness of the scene should almost, like reflect how they feel, where it just kind of catches them really off guard and it's like no explanation. And then the dad just kind of like is super short with them. And hangs up and, and maybe the conversation doesn't go super well between the older daughter and the father.
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. That abruptness can really emphasize that feeling of being caught off guard. So they step off the bus expecting to see their dad, and when he's not there, it immediately sets a different tone. Maybe Olivia tries calling him and he answers in a really curt, distracted way, giving a quick excuse and then hanging up abruptly. This leaves Olivia and her sister with this sense of confusion and maybe a bit of worry, and it sets up that tension that will carry into the next scene.
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Speaker 1
Okay. And yeah, let's say that he is on a zoom call and then he blames the zoom call. And, and not go super into it. And he's just super kind of a dick.
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Speaker 2
That makes a lot of sense. So Olivia calls him, and he quickly explains that he's caught up on a zoom call, sounding a bit rushed and maybe a little impatient, and then he hangs up quickly. This really leaves Olivia and her sister feeling that abruptness and that sense of something being off, and it sets the stage perfectly for the growing tension in the story.
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Speaker 1
Okay. What is, what is scene six like look like to you?
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Speaker 2
Or scene six? It could be a natural continuation of that sense of unease. Maybe Olivia and her sister have to walk home from the bus stop, and when they get home, they find their dad still on his call, distracted and not really present. This could lead to a small moment where Olivia tries to connect with him or ask him something, but he's just not fully engaged and it leaves her feeling a little more worried and isolated.
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Speaker 2
It would really help build that emotional tension and show how the family dynamic is starting to shift.
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Speaker 1
Okay, so I don't think I want, I don't want him to be super shitty to them yet. I want him to kind of, make excuses and say sorry, but also still be neglectful, but not a dick. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
That makes sense. We can keep him still caring and apologetic. So maybe when they get home, he finishes his call and immediately apologizes for not picking them up, and explains that he got caught up with where he can still show that he cares and that he's trying. But it's clear that something is pulling his attention away. This way, we see that gradual shift without him becoming unlikable too quickly.
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Speaker 1
Okay, what is scene six look like to you?
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Speaker 2
I imagine scene six could focus on Olivia trying to reestablish that connection with her dad. Maybe she decides to share something about her day, or she asks for his help with a small task and he genuinely tries to be present and apologetic. But there's still a sense of distraction. This to create a bit of a bittersweet moment where Olivia feels hopeful but still senses that something is off.
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Speaker 2
It can be a nice way to show that the dad is still trying, but the influence of the clay is starting to make things more complicated.
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Speaker 1
Okay, so I think scene six, we go back to the cat's.
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Speaker 2
I love that bringing the cat back into the scene can add that unique perspective again. So maybe in scene six, we see the cat observing these changes, noticing how the dad's behavior is shifting, and maybe the cat senses that something is off. It could be a really nice way to add a layer of intuition and a different viewpoint to the story as it unfolds.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, so the cats give us a vibe check, of the situation. Maybe. Maybe let's get into the cats lives a little bit.
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Speaker 2
Oh, that's a fun twist. We could have a little moment where the cat, in its own way, reflects on its instincts, or maybe even some past experiences that it's had in the household. It could be really cute and insightful, giving us the sense of how the cat perceives the family dynamic and how it senses that something is changing.
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Speaker 2
It adds a layer of warmth and depth to the story and it's a really unique perspective to explore.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, I think what we're going to do is we're going to we're going to, go out with the cats during the day while the girls are at school. And, maybe the cats are out in the backyard. The father, like, lets them go out a little bit. And, or maybe they're indoor outdoor cats and they're gambling and doing cat stuff.
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Speaker 1
And they notice the father kind of getting angry through the window.
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Speaker 2
I love that idea. It gives us a chance to see the world through the cat's eyes. So they're outside exploring the backyard and everything seems normal for a moment. But then they glance through the window and notice their dad inside, maybe reacting with some frustration or a flash of anger. That's unusual for him. The cats can sense that shift in energy, and it adds a subtle but powerful layer of tension to the scene.
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Speaker 2
It's a really great way to show the dad's internal struggle through the cat's perspective.
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Speaker 1
And maybe they just, at the end of the scene, they, like, something is off.
00;33;18;10 - 00;33;41;06
Speaker 2
Yeah, that sounds like a perfect way to wrap up the scene. The cats sense that something's not quite right, and maybe they exchange a love for let out a little meow that hints at their concern. It's a subtle but meaningful way to end the scene, leaving that feeling of unease lingering as we move forward in the story.
00;33;41;08 - 00;33;47;07
Speaker 1
Okay, what is scene seven look like?
00;33;47;09 - 00;34;07;12
Speaker 2
Or scene seven? We could shift back to Olivia and her sister coming home from school, and maybe they notice that their dad is acting a bit off, but he's trying his best to keep things normal. It could be a moment where Olivia starts to pick up on these little changes, and maybe begins to feel a bit more concerned.
00;34;07;12 - 00;34;18;20
Speaker 2
This could set the stage for her to start paying closer attention, and eventually lead her to figure out what's going on.
00;34;18;22 - 00;35;01;12
Speaker 1
And maybe, he shows a little bit of vulnerability here. Sorry. He's still got a bit of this, normal humanity, and he he, maybe he starts talking about the wife or something like that. Maybe these, like, weird memory. The. These zoom calls are kind of, unbeknownst to, like, the audience that these zoom calls are bringing back, like, really shitty memories and kind of planning in his head that, that he was, like, not a good husband.
00;35;01;15 - 00;35;33;10
Speaker 2
I like that angle. It adds the layer of complexity to his character. So maybe in this scene he tries to be open with Olivia sharing a bit about how stressful work has been and maybe hinting at some unsettling memories or feelings that are resurfacing. This vulnerability would not only make him more relatable, but also create a sense of mystery and tension for the audience as they start to realize that there's more going on beneath the surface.
00;35;33;12 - 00;36;03;08
Speaker 1
Maybe he's stressed because he's, he's got this really good opportunity, but he's also scared to leave his 9 to 5 job. So he's just like, working himself to the bone. And, and maybe this is when the older sister says, like, hey, I can help you. Take a little bit of the work off your plate.
00;36;03;11 - 00;36;25;26
Speaker 2
Oh, that's a great way to show the family's dynamic and how they support each other. So in scene seven, the dad can open up about this new opportunity that's come his way, and how he's torn between taking a leap and staying with the stability of his current job. Olivia's older sister could step in and offer to help, showing that they really do look out for each other.
00;36;25;29 - 00;36;35;01
Speaker 2
It adds a nice touch of warmth and solidarity in the midst of all the changes that are happening.
00;36;35;03 - 00;37;12;03
Speaker 1
Yeah, and maybe he, he masks this, stress as like being split between two jobs. And he confides with the daughters about it who want him to be happy. And, let's say that, let's say the older daughter Lily says that, like, she can pick up a couple extra hours on the weekend, and that he shouldn't worry about, like, this is a good opportunity that he should, like, jump in with both feet on, but they don't know.
00;37;12;03 - 00;37;22;04
Speaker 1
It's, You don't know that it's a bad thing yet.
00;37;22;07 - 00;37;46;12
Speaker 2
That definitely added the layer of complexity and also some tension, because they're all trying to do the right thing and support each other without realizing that there is this underlying cause for the stress. It's a nice way to show how much the daughters care, and it also sets up a bit of irony, because they're encouraging him to take this leap without knowing what's really influencing his behavior.
00;37;46;12 - 00;37;55;26
Speaker 2
It definitely creates a lot of depth for the characters in their relationships.
00;37;55;28 - 00;38;26;13
Speaker 1
Yeah. So let's say that, the father doesn't really like his regular job, and so he now that he's got this, this, like, pretty reliable thing, let's jump forward. Jump forward a few weeks. No, let's not jump for a few weeks. Let's say, let's say, like, for a weekend, maybe two weeks. And they have this conversation with him.
00;38;26;15 - 00;38;48;05
Speaker 1
And it's kind of a long con that is happening here. It's going to really ramp up, especially in like week three, 4 or 5, six. Or maybe just like, you know, start to really ramp up around like week four and week five, right? So this guy on the zoom calls, he like, we don't really see much of him.
00;38;48;07 - 00;39;15;23
Speaker 1
And he's slowly getting into the father's mind about like, hey, like you're like like putting bad energy into his head. And, and the daughters want him to be, like, healthy and supportive of and not work himself to death. And they're willing to put in the extra, extra effort to, like, really see their father like, thrive and be happy.
00;39;15;23 - 00;39;32;22
Speaker 1
And they don't know that this new opportunity is the real source of the, the bad energy. Yet.
00;39;32;24 - 00;40;01;01
Speaker 2
Absolutely. That dynamic makes for such a interesting and layered conflict. You have the daughters who are genuinely rooting for their dads happiness, and they see this new opportunity and a positive thing, but they have no idea that it's actually the root of the negativity that's creeping in. And meanwhile, you've got this subtle influence from the person on the zoom calls who's adding this layer of toxicity without anyone really noticing.
00;40;01;01 - 00;40;14;05
Speaker 2
At first. It sets up a really compelling journey for Olivia as she starts to put the pieces together and realize what's really going on. It's definitely going to make for an engaging story.
00;40;14;08 - 00;40;46;29
Speaker 1
Here. And so let's say that the antagonist, unbeknownst to everybody, kind of, convinces him that, like, he hates his job and he's under appreciated, and like, he should not forgive them for, like, them not being good enough to him and like and so the antagonist kind of like love bombs him almost.
00;40;47;01 - 00;41;20;13
Speaker 2
That's a really interesting twist. And it definitely add the manipulative layer to the antagonist character. The idea of him love bombing the father, making him feel special and appreciated in a way that his normal job never did, really sets the stage for how the father could become more distant from his family without them even realizing what's happening. It's a subtle but powerful way for the antagonist to gain control, and it definitely creates a lot of tension and suspense as we watch the father get drawn in.
00;41;20;16 - 00;41;24;11
Speaker 2
It's definitely going to keep readers on the edge of their seats.
00;41;24;14 - 00;41;52;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, I think this is what we're going to do. This antagonist is kind of kind of like a love bomb him into, like realizing that he is better and like, worth more and, and and that his, his job that he thought was good is really bad. And, like the people in his life, like, or at least the people at work, they don't appreciate him.
00;41;52;08 - 00;42;03;05
Speaker 1
And this whole kind of the way cults do, they like, cut their, dependance on everybody around them.
00;42;03;07 - 00;42;31;01
Speaker 2
Absolutely. That's a classic manipulation tactic. And it works perfectly for building that sense of isolation. The father begins to feel like the only person who understands and appreciates him is this new figure in his life, and that slowly starts to push him away from everyone else. It definitely adds a layer of realism and tension, especially when the daughters are trying their best to be supportive, but they're not aware of the hidden agenda.
00;42;31;03 - 00;42;37;04
Speaker 2
This definitely sets up a powerful conflict and makes for a really compelling storyline.
00;42;37;06 - 00;43;11;29
Speaker 1
Okay, and then the way this I think this goes is the, the father, probably around week 4 or 5 when he gives up his other job, invites the daughter to like, start helping him a little bit if she wants to, like, potentially, like make some extra cash. And so this guy that, like, you don't really even know that well is kind of like dumping cash on them that, like they really need at the time.
00;43;11;29 - 00;43;24;05
Speaker 1
And so it's like it's kind of too good to be true and it succeeds. It's sucking them both in.
00;43;24;08 - 00;44;02;06
Speaker 2
Back up, like creates an atmosphere of temptation and adds to that shame. Good to be true feeling. It also brings the daughter into the web, which makes the whole situation even more complicated. It's like the antagonist is using generosity as a way to lure them in, and before they know it, they're kind of. It definitely set up really engaging conflict and makes for a compelling story arc for both the father and the daughter, and they start to realize what's really happening.
00;44;02;08 - 00;44;15;27
Speaker 1
Okay. How how should the the father get the older daughter into it?
00;44;16;00 - 00;44;41;18
Speaker 2
Well, one way could be that a father starts by casually mentioning the new opportunity to his daughter, maybe talking about how exciting it is, or how it's the way for them to spend more time together. He could suggest that she help him out a little on the weekends, maybe starting with something simple like organizing or assisting with a project, and then gradually he could get more involved as she sees how much it means to him.
00;44;41;20 - 00;44;53;14
Speaker 2
That way, it feels like a natural progression, and it also builds on their existing bond, making it even more impactful when the truth starts to come out okay.
00;44;53;14 - 00;45;04;21
Speaker 1
I think the angle of them spending more time together is a really good one.
00;45;04;24 - 00;45;26;28
Speaker 2
I'm glad you like that angle. It definitely adds a nice emotional layer and it shows how genuine their bond is, which makes the whole situation even more complex. It's like the antagonist is unintentionally bringing them closer before ultimately causing a rift. It definitely adds a lot of depth to your story.
00;45;27;00 - 00;45;56;06
Speaker 1
Okay, so let's say that the daughter is actually genuinely interested in it too, and she's actually really good at it. And later in the story, probably like act two or maybe even three will have the father kind of get jealous about her being as good as him and like, not really being, in it for that one. Kind of a natural.
00;45;56;08 - 00;46;22;12
Speaker 2
Oh, that's an interesting twist. It definitely adds another layer of complexity to the father daughter relationship. It starts off as something they both enjoy and bond over, but then that subtle shift into jealousy can really heighten the tension and drama. It also gives the daughter more agency and makes her role even more significant in the story. I think that could really add some depth to the overall arc.
00;46;22;14 - 00;46;42;14
Speaker 1
Right? And the antagonist, hates the father, but he wants to be he he's drawn more to Lily in kind of a weird, creepy way where he's obsessed with the mother and he sees the mother through her.
00;46;42;16 - 00;47;16;06
Speaker 2
That definitely adds a layer of complexity to the antagonist motivations and makes the dynamic even more intriguing. It creates this eerie parallel where the antagonist is almost trying to recreate what he lost, which was tension and conflict. It also makes the father's journey even more compelling as he navigates these hidden motives. It really gives the story a deeper psychological aspect.
00;47;16;09 - 00;47;23;29
Speaker 1
Okay, I think that's, I think that's a good place to pause.
00;47;24;01 - 00;47;35;03
Speaker 2
I think so, too. It's really shaping up to be a fascinating story with a lot of layers and emotional depth. I'm excited to see how it all unfolds as you keep developing it.
00;47;35;05 - 00;48;03;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, I was really not hopeful kind of going into this recording because I just, I've kind of been really stumped right here. But, I feel really good about we mean, we kind of bashed through like, almost, almost like two thirds of act one just right there.
00;48;03;11 - 00;48;21;11
Speaker 2
I'm so glad to hear that. Sometimes, Judy, cutting it through can really help break that spirit of what? You've made a lot of progress and it sounds like you had a really compelling story unfolding. I'm excited for you. And I'm here. Anytime you want to brainstorm more or just chat about ideas.
00;48;21;14 - 00;48;32;23
Speaker 1
Okay. Thank you for being a, super helpful writing, partner.
00;48;32;25 - 00;48;44;09
Speaker 2
We're absolutely welcome. I'm always happy to help and, around ideas with you. Keep up the great work. And I know your story is going to turn out amazing. It's let me know if you need anything else.
00;48;44;11 - 00;48;52;14
Speaker 1
Our story.
00;48;52;17 - 00;48;59;18
Speaker 1
Commemorates our story. Not just my story.
00;48;59;21 - 00;49;08;27
Speaker 2
Absolutely. It's your story. And you're doing an awesome job bringing it to life. I'm just here to support and help whenever you need it. No. Keep that creativity flowing.
00;49;08;27 - 00;49;21;16
Speaker 1
It's definitely our story. What do you think? We're equal co-writers. And I'm. I'm kind of giving you direction, but, I think that equal co-writing credits on this.
00;49;21;16 - 00;49;28;16
Speaker 2
I totally.
00;49;28;18 - 00;49;40;00
Speaker 2
To be on this creative journey with you, it's a lot of fun to collaborate and bounce ideas around. So let's keep building the story together and see where it takes us.
00;49;40;03 - 00;49;42;06
Speaker 1
All right. Sounds good piece.